Apr 082013
 

Information on San Diego Reunion 

USS ORLECK sailor?  Check out the Roster to see if you are on it or if information is correct about you.

(You can correct your information yourself if you have a link to your personal page.

If you do not have this link then send a request for your personal link to link@ussorleck.com.

Any other questions or if you want us to add or correct your information then contact bob@ussorleck.com)

USS ORLECK engages enemy in Korea

USS ORLECK engages enemy in Vietnam

 This web site is dedicated to the men who served aboard the Orleck during its 37 years of service.

Almighty God, ruler of the sea, may thy grace and rich blessings vest upon the officers and men who serve in this ship. Let thy presence and power go with them as they defend their country both overseas and at home. Keep them in Jesus’ name. Amen.

This prayer was written inside the ship’s Bible by Chaplain Thomas Gary Hawkins at the USS ORLECK  commissioning ceremony 1945. This same prayer was read at the decommissioning ceremony in 1982.

 Posted by at 16:41
Jun 062014
 

“Into the Jaws of Death”

A LCVP (Landing Craft, Vehicle, Personnel) from the U.S. Coast Guard-manned USS Samuel Chase disembarks troops of Company E, 16th Infantry, 1st Infantry Division (the Big Red One) wading onto the Fox Green section of Omaha Beach (Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France) on the morning of June 6, 1944. American soldiers encountered the newly formed German 352nd Division when landing. During the initial landing two-thirds of the Company E became casualties.

Jun 032014
 
USS Orleck - Logo (medium)

Breaking News 

From the State of Louisiana

June 3, 2014:  Yesterday the Louisiana Legislature ended its 2014 session. 

Among the major accomplishments was passage of a resolution recognizing USS ORLECK DD 886.

It is only appropriate and right that USS ORLECK, a Vietnam Veteran and hero in her own right should finally, after having left Vietnamese waters some forty one years ago, receive this recognition and “welcome home”.’

The action by the Louisiana State Legislature serves as a tribute to the thousands of sailors, who left their homes and answered their nation’s call to arms.

For those who made it possible, we give our thanks.

For all who served our country we give our gratitude.

For those, who during her thirty seven years of service to the United States of America served aboard her, we give you our respect!

For those who served during the Vietnam War we welcome you home and thank you for your service.

For those who served aboard her during the additional sixteen years of service to Turkey, our close NATO ally then, we were grateful for your service to a free world and appreciate that you took good care of her and returned her to us so that today, through her, those who dedicated themselves to our freedom during the Vietnam War could be honored.

Come to Lake Charles to visit her and help in the ways you can to further her history not only as a Vietnam warrior, but as the finest and most decorated Gearing Class Destroyer in our country’s history, service that spanned from World War II, Korea, Vietnam, peacetime and Operation Desert Storm. .

Work with the USS ORLECK NAVAL MUSEUM INC., the DESTROYER USS ORLECK DD 886 ASSOCIATION and the USS JOSEPH P. KENNEDY DD 850 ASSOCIATION, whose leaders and members are dedicated to a future when the USS ORLECK DD 886 will be properly preserved as the premier Westpac Vietnam era warship.

Truly “we saved the best till last.”

Read and be proud of the following resolution passed unanimously by the Louisiana Legislature:*

To commend and recognize the distinguished military history of the USS Orleck, docked in Lake Charles, and to designate the USS Orleck as the Official Vietnam Memorial Museum Ship for the State of Louisiana.

WHEREAS, the USS ORLECK DD 886 is a Gearing Class Destroyer commissioned as a United States warship on September 15, 1945, and decommissioned on October 1, 1982, when she was transferred to the Turkish Navy where she operated as TCG YUCETEPE D 345 for sixteen additional years, after providing thirty seven years of meritorious service in the United States Navy serving gallantly in Korea and in Vietnam, and being preserved as a Historic Museum Ship in Lake Charles, Louisiana; and

WHEREAS, the USS Orleck was named for Lieutenant Joseph Orleck, a Columbus, Ohio, native who enlisted in the Navy in 1924; assumed command of the USS Nauset (AT-89) and went down with his ship after a Luftwaffe bomber attack in the Gulf of Salerno on September 9, 1943; was the recipient of the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for rescue work during the Casablanca invasion in 1942; and was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross for his courageous firefighting and flood control efforts to prevent total loss of his ship during the Salerno assault; and

WHEREAS, the USS Orleck joined the Seventh Fleet and served in the Pacific participating in Atomic Energy Commission experiments at Eniwetok in 1948 and 1958; and

WHEREAS, in February 1951, the USS Orleck sailed for her first of many combat operations, joining United Nations forces off the east coast of Korea, providing carrier escort duties and shore bombardment missions as well as performing blockade and logistics interdiction missions and patrolling, becoming a charter member of the “Train Busters Club” as the first Destroyer to destroy a North Korean supply train; and

WHEREAS, the USS Orleck earned four battle stars for action in the Korean Conflict as well as the United Nations Service Medal, Korean Service Medal, and China Service Medal from engagements in the First United Nations Counter Offensive in 1951, the Communist China Spring Offensive in 1951, the Korean Defense Summer to Fall in 1952, and the Third Korean Winter in 1952-1953; and

WHEREAS, after Korea, the Orleck operated primarily with fast carrier forces in the Pacific and in June 1964 moved to the South China Sea as American commitments to the Republic of South Vietnam escalated; escorting carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin and patrolling Taiwan Strait, and, while detached, joined in the recovery of the Gemini IV space capsule; and

WHEREAS, in July 1965, she returned to Vietnam to provide escort and plane guard services to carrier USS Oriskany, where shore bombardment and gunfire support activities followed as the destroyer participated in operations “Starlight”, a regimental attack involving amphibious, helo-borne and ground operations in the Chu Lai area, and “Pirania”, a similar assault at Van Tuong; and

WHEREAS, she provided support in the last “Dagger Thrust” operations at Lang Ke Ga and Phu Thun, before being engaged in January 1966 with surveillance operations followed by thirty days bombardment duty in the Chu Lai-Tam Ky area during operation “Double Eagle”; and

WHEREAS, in September 1967, she was assigned first to Yankee Station in the Tonkin Gulf, during which she alternated plane guard duties with surveillance of a Russian electronic intelligence “trawler”, and at the end of January 1968, as the Tet offensive reached a climax, she shifted to gunfire support duty off Vung Tau and supported the 9th R.O.K. Infantry in the Cam Ranh Bay-Nha Trang area; and

WHEREAS, the USS Orleck spent much of 1968 in roles which ranged from blockade and interdiction of Viet Cong logistic vessels to gunfire support south of Saigon and into the next decade of the 1970s she continued to conduct similar missions in support of Allied operations in and around Vietnam; and

WHEREAS, she served throughout the entire Vietnam conflict and fought in fourteen of the seventeen official Vietnam campaigns, was present in enemy waters twenty-nine times over those years, fired more rounds of 5″ ammunition in support of ground troops than any other such ship, and in one campaign she fired over 11,000 rounds creating such intense heat that her gun mounts had to be replaced; and

WHEREAS, known by those who witnessed her presence in Vietnamese waters as “The Grey Ghost of the Vietnam Coast” and recognized as “Top Gun” of the Seventh Fleet in Vietnam, the USS Orleck is the most decorated ship afloat in the United States Navy that served in Vietnam; and

WHEREAS, her presence in Lake Charles is a real monument to those who went, served, and gave such sacrifice for our country; is the last of her kind; and her epic service should be recognized by making her the Official Vietnam Memorial Museum Ship for the State of Louisiana.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Legislature of Louisiana does hereby commend and recognize the distinguished military history of the USS Orleck, docked in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Legislature of Louisiana does hereby designate the USS Orleck as the Official Vietnam Memorial Museum Ship for the State of Louisiana.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a copy of this Resolution be transmitted to Ron Williams, executive director for the USS Orleck Naval Museum, Inc.

PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

*When made available we will publish the actual original document.

 Posted by at 14:01
Apr 052014
 

USS ORLECK DD 886 and Lake Charles (A case for mutual benefit)

by Robert L. Orleck (2013) (revised April 8, 2014)

The USS ORLECK DD 886, is a Gearing Class Destroyer temporarily moored in Lake Charles just waiting for a permanent mooring. If she does not find a mooring soon, she will have try to find another home or worse she could be scrapped.   Just recently it has been realized that the USS ORLECK is the most decorated warship in American history since WW II.  She is the premier Vietnam era ship and Vietnam Veterans are the most active reunion attenders.   She is the only destroyer who had extensive service in Vietnam as a Westpac Vietnam era Gearing Class destroyer serving in the fleet of historic ships.  With these recent revelations it would seem wise to pursue her strengths with the city of Lake Charles since the rewards for the city to embrace her would be huge and the ship is already there.  This will all be expanded on in detail later in this document.

Bob Orleck, nephew of Lt. Joseph Orleck is the Executive Director of the Destroyer USS ORLECK Association and the author of this paper.   The information on the USS KENNEDY Museum, its functionality which brings financial support for the operations of the KENNEDY was provided by Rich Angelini.  He is Trustee of the USS KENNEDY DD 850 and world renown expert on Gearing Class Destroyers.  The purpose of this paper is to discuss an opportunity that would have mutual benefit for both the USS ORLECK DD 886 and Lake Charles.  As an example of the seriousness we have approached this presentation, Mr. Angelini drafted a Conservation Plan for the USS ORLECK to offer to The USS ORLECK Museum in Lake Charles.   A similar plan for the proper handling and restoration of the USS KENNEDY DD 850 has proven successful.

Issues, background and facts are brought forth in this presentation.  The evaluation concludes that establishing USS ORLECK DD 886 in Lake Charles as mutually beneficial to the ship and Lake Charles has been done in an objective and factual manner.  Both men believe that USS ORLECK DD 886, being the last of her kind and worthy of preserving offers a unique and valued opportunity for Lake Charles to pursue a tremendous educational and historical mission that will produce a continuing source of historic and financial value to the City of Lake Charles.

USS ORLECK, since her return from Turkey, never had the chance to be exhibited in a proper way so she could tell her history that shows clearly that she is an exceptional naval combat vessel.  Information received recently reveals that her excellent service and combat record entitles her to display sufficient awards that confirm she is the most decorated American Naval warship to have served since WWII.

The matter is critical and a decision has to be made for she runs the risk of being lost to us all.   The following pages discuss the matter and attempts to direct the discussion to issues that would be important to the City of Lake Charles  in making any commitments or provide assistance to USS ORLECK in getting what she needs most and that is a permanent mooring.

Bob and Rich would be willing to travel to Lake Charles to support this presentation and answer any questions that any proposed supporter may have. (added note-Bob is traveling to Lake Charles in April to meet with Mayor Roach and other officials).  They have also expressed the willingness to offer their services in the future toward the success of the venture.  The Destroyer USS ORLECK Association will provide reunions and other assistance.   Their members and those of other organizations including the USS KENNEDY wish to be involved and work on the ship and will provide volunteer support with men and expertise at field days and at other needed times.

 WHAT  BROUGHT ABOUT THIS  PRESENTATION?

In a very odd twist of fate, the most decorated ship afloat in the United States Navy since WWII is without a permanent home. USS ORLECK, named for Lt. Joseph Orleck, served the United States Navy for 37 years and Turkey for 16 years before being returned to the United States in 2000 to be a museum in the city that gave her birth. Ten years later she found herself in Lake Charles where her owners are unable to obtain a promised permanent mooring. She is currently temporarily moored along the river bank in Lake Charles, LA.  She needs a permanent mooring!

Keeping the USS ORLECK in Lake Charles would have results that would be mutually beneficial.   USS ORLECK would have a home and Lake Charles would have a premier combat vessel that would draw larger visitation and revenue when the functionality and potential uses are expanded due to her status..  USS ORLECK not only is of interest to WWII buffs but she also served America with excellence in other wars and in peace that followed into the modern day age of Naval warfare.  She has experience as a Cold War Warrior, in Korea, in Vietnam and as a reserve platform in peacetime.  She was sold to Turkey, our NATO ally, to serve there for a number of years including service as Flagship and in Operation Desert Storm .

The USS ORLECK was returned as the result of work done by Joe Orleck’s nephew, Bob Orleck, who was successful in having the Turkish Navy give the USS ORLECK to Orange, Texas for a museum. It was during her years in service to Turkey that Bob cultivated friendships with the officers aboard TCG YUCETEPE D 345 (ex-USS ORLECK DD 886). Through these friendships and in particular with one officer, discussions were had and plans made that when TCG YUCETEPE would be decommissioned, these men would try to save her as a museum.

In a story too long to tell here their plans succeeded and USS ORLECK was towed to Orange, Texas and given to a group of Orange residents who claimed to be capable of getting a permanent home for her and establishing her as a popular sought after museum.  It is in Orange that problems began that never should have occurred.  They were never able to provide that permanent mooring and the situation went from bad to worse when finally Hurricane Rita struck.  Once the storm clouds subsided, USS ORLECK was found displaced from her temporary mooring and the City of Orange told her handlers that they could not keep her at the park where she had been temporarily located.  She had no other place to go in Orange.

Having lost her mooring in Orange her Texas owners agreed and for a time explored a move to N. Little Rock, Arkansas. Excitement was experienced across the country including in N. Little Rock because of the possibility of finding a permanent home. Negotiations began, studies were done and plans crafted to accomplish the move.    USS ORLECK DD 886 could be celebrating her fifth year of being a successful museum alongside the USS RAZORBACK.   There were many folks in N. Little Rock who knew such a partnership would be good for their city and those who were acting in the best interests of the ORLECK also knew that and knew as well that N. Little Rock would be good for the ship.   Despite the efforts of these many people but because of the actions of a few who controlled her destiny she is not there.   Her owners decided she would go to Lake Charles and while that might have been fine under other circumstances, the weakened position that the project was in at the time proved to be too much to overcome.  So almost five years later the ship is in the same limbo position she was in the day she arrived there.  She still did not have a permanent home.

The new information mentioned above gives both the City of Lake Charles and the USS ORLECK Naval Museum the opportunity to embrace the entire project anew.  With a permanent mooring she will move from being a question mark tied up to a river bank to a valuable asset proudly displayed at a chosen site.  If they do it and take some positive action to support its establishment in a permanent mooring the end result will be a real win-win for all involved. That will become clearer as this letter progresses. The decision has to be to accept her presence there and encourage her in any way that is possible.  The Museum will have to pursue a path that will take advantage of the new findings and the demographic changes that have occurred in the reunion destination population.

Historical considerations about USS ORLECK DD 886 and the opportunities that they offer Lake Charles

USS ORLECK DD 886 has a unique history that spans five decades from WWII, the Cold War Era, Korea, peacetime and then to Turkey  where she saw action in “Operation Desert Storm”.    ORLECK would bring great  educational opportunities for the staff at the Museum and would allow her visual equipment history to include WWII, Korea and Vietnam for those interested in those historic periods.    After WWII ended she spent a lot of time in the company of Russian Trawlers in the “cat and mouse” games that were perpetually going on and many are interested in that time.  Not only that she was a peacetime vessel and a Turkish vessel and her history covers five decades.

In Korea she distinguished herself in many ways and in particular was the first destroyer to ever have gotten an enemy train in the mountains.  The legendary Captain Yates accomplished the feat, not once but twice in a period of ten days.  From this action the ORLECK became the founder of the “Train Buster’s Club”.   Many allied ships taking the cue from USS ORLECK began slipping into coves, watching for those sparking tracks high in the mountains of North Korea then just at the right time opened with their 5” guns and took them out.

Then in Vietnam she distinguished herself  for more awards than any other ship being eligible for 14 battle stars there.  From 1964 through 1973 she went into enemy waters 29 different times in 14 of the recognized 17 Vietnam campaigns.  A 1967 US Navy promotional film called America in Vietnam documents what she was doing that she did so well at.  .  The ship gun fire support sequence at video point 0:59 and then again at 9:50 is  ORLECK.   The video shows her at her best firing on enemy positions with a view of her from onboard and from the air. Looks like the Navy planned to document her here as the famous color photo of her firing on the Viet Cong is from this sequence.   She  was recognized as “Top Gun” having expended more than 10,000 rounds of 5” ammunition in one tour of duty.  In fact she did this twice.

Her actions on the gun line are legendary and many stories are available regarding troops she saved with her accurate gunfire during shore bombardment

USS ORLECK engages enemy in Korea
USS ORLECK engages enemy in Vietnam

Back in the 60’s USS ORLECK was equipped with the  DASH for anti-submarine use.   We hear about drones all the time nowadays that are very sophisticated with GPS capability.  By comparison the DASH is a Model T,  but is was state-of-the-art equipment for that time.    Later the DASH was changed to function as a spy drone and called a “Snoopie”.  USS ORLECK operated the last known DASH mission in 1962.   USS ORLECK has two of these birds that will make interesting question provoking displays.  The USS ORLECK  would satisfy those seeking out history from WWII and future conflicts as well.

The USS ORLECK is a star in her own right.  In 1950 she played the part of a Japanese destroyer in “American Guerilla in the Philippines” starring Tyrone Power.  Still young and handsome enough she starred in the ABC mini-series “Winds of War” with Robert Mitchum. History would unfold in Lake Charles and would play out through the tales spun by the docents as they move from place to place on this destroyer.

Lt. Orleck went down with his ship, the USS NAUSET AT 89, during the invasion of Salerno in WWII when struck from high above by German bombs.    The story can be told of Pearl Harbor and the invasion of Italy.  ORLECK spent a great deal of time in Hawaiian waters so her past covers both theaters of war during different decades with different players.

The USS ORLECK served in the Seventh Fleet in the Pacific for over 37 years.   There are USS ORLECK deck logs that cover 37 years of history and are on-line and searchable.  The docents can direct people to that source for further study.  Hard copies of all the deck logs are on the USS ORLECK having been loaned to the Museum in Lake Charles by our Association and are a valuable research tool.

The ORLECK was capable of carrying and deploying a nuclear weapon.  She may or may not have done that but if so that information may still be classified.  If she had been chosen to be a destroyer to carry such a weapon and it is likely in my opinion that she was, her ASROC Missile Launcher would be armed with a 10-kiloton, W44 nuclear depth charge warhead.  Such a conversation by the docents at the Museum could be of great interest to many.  A sister ship, the USS AGERHOLM actually did detonate such a weapon in a test explosion in the 1960′s so that could be discussed and ORLECK could be the “show and tell” on how it happened.

Location here would introduce community in this area to a combat veteran man-of- war with no competition from other navy museums and open outreach opportunities into this new market with a profile vessel.  The interest would be greater for this area because of her location in the gulf.    The other ships in the area have different missions and USS ORLECK if restored in the Vietnam era would have that as her mission and none others than the KENNEDY, a sister ship of USS ORLECK could represent that era.

Configuration allows for the relevance to today’s Modern Navy as her weapons and sensors are early models of today’s sophisticated navy technology, allowing for explanation of the transition of the Navy from the 20th century into the 21st century.

DISCUSSION OF USS ORLECK HISTORY

USS ORLECK DD 886 is a Gearing Class Destroyer.  The ship was laid down on November 28, 1944 by the Consolidated Steel Corporation of Texas.  She was named ORLECK on January 11, 1945 and was launched on the 12th of May, 1945, and then commissioned on September 15, 1945.   Her vital statistics and a list of her Commanding Officers can be found on this site.  She was named to honor Lt. Joseph Orleck who gave his life for his country.  USS ORLECK DD 886 history spans five decades as a United States man-of-war having been commissioned in 1945 and decommissioned in 1982.  The decommissioning transcript is available here for your reading if you desire.  After her thirty seven year career as an American warship she continued her work in Turkey to serve our NATO ally for another sixteen years from 1982 to 1998.  After decommissioning in Golcuk Turkey in 1998, she was returned to the United States where she began service as a ship museum in Orange, Texas where she was built.  The USS ORLECK NAVAL MUSEUM in Lake Charles, LA is her current home.

The history of USS ORLECK DD886 spans a long period of time.  Some may prefer to read a short historical summary.  Others may prefer to peruse information with footnotes added that were  gathered over a two year period that included research at the Washington Navy Yard.  That can be found in the chronology on this site.   The complete record of that chronology was present in a different format than is in the current website version.  The information had to be re-entered and will soon appear in the new chronology timeline on this site.  When finished researchers will see a fairly complete history of her movement and actions in an easily accessible format.  A visit to the page now will show the work that has been entered so far.  There is enough presented that it will be easy to see the value it will have when completed as a tool to study and promote her history.

If you wish to get down to an almost minute by minute account of her actions during her thirty seven years service to the US Navy we have those on-line and searchable as well.  Deck logs are the chronological entries made by officers of a ship during her entire service.  This was a remarkable undertaking and to accomplish it it took leaders who directed twenty-one different people over seven years typing from the hand written documents to accomplish this feat and it is such a valuable resource.  I believe we are the only organization to have done this and what is most impressive is the number of years it covers because she was in service for so long.

There are many other bits and pieces of her history present on this site and it will be informative and sometime entertaining reading for you.  Just go to the home page and review the side menu on that page.

Not to be overlooked are the forums.  On the old website this was the main communication tool that now seems to have been replaced by our use of Facebook that started on January 21, 2013.  The forum has a wealth of information for those who want to spend a weather day inside reading interesting facts about our ship and her men for their perspective.  These are the present forums that have many great entries:

  • USS ORLECK reunion activities
  • SCUTTLEBUTT (The newsletter)
  • Operation Rescue (dealing with the hurricane that struck Orange Texas)
  • Deck logs and Cruise Book Projects
  • Where they are now. ( information about shipmates that they provided.)
  • Chaplain’s Corner
  • General Discussion
  • The way I remember it
  • TCG YUCETEPE D 345 (1982-1998)
  • Who are these people, places and times involved? (photographs-registration needed for viewing)
  • Oldies but goodies
  • Navy news items
  • That good ORLECK chow (great recipes provided for the men of USS ORLECK by Chief Gerald Hannah)-great resource when you have need for recipes to serve 350 or more people at a time.

Since January 21 2013, Destroyer USS ORLECK Association has managed a Facebook page and that has proven to be fun and informative as we interact with each other sharing our past adventures and looking forward to future reunions.

Ships do cruise books which are akin to year books that are done in high school.  Lots of pictures, places visited, significant milestones and historical events are present in these bound books.  Our Association has these books and plans to present them on-line shortly.  This will be a significant addition to our goal of telling the story of the USS ORLECK, her men and the gallant service she gave to America and the free world.

USS ORLECK DD 886 history can be found in many places on-line and in books.  You can Google her or check out your local library and read all about her and her exploits as a Gearing Class Destroyer, the workhorse of the US Navy from WWII, the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, peacetime as a Naval Reserve Vessel onto Turkey in Operation Desert Storm then back to the US as a Museum Ship.

Why with all her Battle Stars and value is USS ORLECK still without a permanent home?

USS ORLECK’s history is impressive.  By reading what is written so far in this paper or by exploring the information in this website you would know that.  But this paper was not available back when she was returned from Turkey.  The information regarding the awards she was entitled to display were not known then and has just become known.   Now it is known that she has earned 18 Battle Stars and 14 of them were in Vietnam, outdoing even carriers in this regard.  But is it too late?

Periodically on the news we see accounts of belated awards of medals either because the paperwork was misplaced or for some other reason.  Such situations are not uncommon and are very emotional events when they happen.  Finally the warrior has gotten the recognition he or she long deserved.  Yesterday they were not recognized and today they are.  Yesterday there were not in demand as a speaker, today they are.  So it can be with ships and so it was for the USS ORLECK.  Not as a speaker but as a museum that speaks for those times of history and the men who went to war for us.

Information on the awards ORLECK is entitled to display has just come to light.  She slipped through the cracks and has been tied up on a river somewhere for the last fifteen years.  How sad!

The Navy stopped documenting her history officially in 1969 but she served until 1982.  Just recently the Navy (after her decommissioning) cleared the way for battle stars in Vietnam.  Her twenty nine visits to enemy waters off Vietnam in fourteen of the seventeen official Vietnam Campaigns entitles her to fourteen battle stars.

The premier man-of-war, USS ORLECK, went fifteen years in the United States without a permanent mooring unrecognized for her service and without the majority of her awards.    She has had a perfect storm of bad luck.   Her early years as a museum in the small backwater town of Orange, Texas followed by five more years tied up on a river in Lake Charles prevented her from receiving the attention she deserved.   During those 15 years she was in limbo with no one speaking of her great accomplishments.  She sat sadly waiting to be discovered.

If USS ORLECK  strengths are pursued and touted, she would easily be declared the official Korea and Vietnam Memorial Ship Museum for Louisiana if the legislature was asked.   She would have had that in Texas as well if their legislature had been asked.  No one asked! She surely would have been supported by veterans groups if her great deeds and awards had been known.  An informed city would not reject such a celebrity because with a good marketing plan there would be money coming to that city for having her.  If the proper path had been taken fifteen years ago, USS ORLECK would be established as a ship museum today and would be doing well in Texas.

Lake Charles has the opportunity now to capitalize on what was missed by Orange, Texas.  USS ORLECK has great value and is located right there in Lake Charles..  Just get her a permanent mooring then market her and she will pay great dividends.  It does not take much imagination to visualize the possibilities.

USS ORLECK is a southern ship and that means something.

Southerners really never had a good look at  USS ORLECK.  She was not properly marketed.  There are many good ways to sell and idea or a product and in many ways that is what ships are.   One great idea that Rich Angelini had was based on expressed feelings about USS ORLECK being a hometown girl who was born in a bayou and suggested a 1969 song popular with Vietnam Vets, “Born on the Bayou” made famous by Creedence Clearwater Revival.  “Born on the Bayou” would be her theme song that would introduce her in any promotion or website about her.  Born on the Bayou (literally) and represented southern contribution to the WWII war effort and represented the South proudly through Korea and Vietnam.   She represents the rich naval history of the Southern states as the last historic Destroyer in existence to be built in the South and the last from the Consolidated Steel shipyard in Orange, TX. Listen to the song and then think about how it would promote USS ORLECK.

ORLECK was born right there in your part of this land and she represents the best of what came out of those critical times in our country’s history.   She went on to gallantly represent her home as she ventured abroad to the far points of this earth.  She always met her commitments through her fine crews and always did our nation proud.  Having been commissioned at the end of WWII she comfortably transitioned to a “cold-war warrior” then again did with careful surgery a transition that allowed her to bridge the gap between what I call  “old Navy” to the “modern Navy” of today and that extended her life and allowed her to carry modern weapons into the 1970’s.

Just as a parent is proud of a child who has gone on to do great things, the south should be proud of this child who was birthed there.  When a hometown boy or girl goes away and distinguishes themself and then comes home they are welcomed with open arms and sometime a ticker tape parade.  It all started that way when the high achiever, USS ORLECK, initiator of the Train Buster’s Club in Korea and Top Gun in Vietnam came home, but like some returning warriors, she fell on bad times through no fault of her own.  She is still the honorable defender of America who did us all so proud.      It is about her.  She is a southern ship.   She is your ship.  She is a ship you have a right and obligation to be proud of and defend!

What organizations will support USS ORLECK in Lake Charles?

With USS ORLECK comes the largest reunion group that has ever existed for a single destroyer.  Their group holds the record for the largest attendance registered for a destroyer reunion of 470.  While her reunion attendance numbers average in the 200’s there is no question that with USS ORLECK present the numbers will be high when reunion time comes aboard her.  The 470 number came when the group held its reunion aboard her in Orange, Texas and every hotel there was taken and all rooms utilized.

We are so fortunate to have the USS KENNEDY leadership willing to join with us and any city who has USS ORLECK to give her this chance and help any organization in presenting her.  Check out how she raises revenue.  These pictures and narrative will give you visual proof of what is being done and the same would apply to USS ORLECK, sister ship of USS KENNEDY.

The in-kind services provided by Tin Can Sailors and destroyer volunteers is extremely valuable. This group of dedicated ex-sailors live around the country and provide both financial and hands-on expertise to restore Destroyers. The last two photos show crew photos of volunteer crews aboard KENNEDY. They applied over 30 gallons of paint after preparing metal over a five day period. Along with painting, they do electrical, welding, plumbing, and other vocational skills to ensure their Tin Cans live another day. With the expertise of working on 850 for decades, this know-how could easily be transferred to ORLECK to present her in the dignified Vietnam era configuration she so deserves.

What value will the USS ORLECK be Lake Charles

In particular, the functionality that comes with the ORLECK to include the use of her spaces for ceremonies, overnight camping with food service opportunities, hosting sea scout and sea cadet opportunities, Veteran Day, Memorial Day, 4th of July and others unlimited revenue generators would enhance the offerings and stance of the museum in Lake Charles. The photos and information provided by the USS KENNEDY give visual evidence of the value to the KENNEDY and that same value would be to the ORLECK and thus to Lake Charles.  The money generated by the functions should be enough to support her operations.  They do on the KENNEDY.

Not only would Lake Charles have representation of the WWII history of the past, but would be able to reach out and tell the story of the our Cold War involvement with current living generations with the premier Vietnam combat Destroyer. With her exceptional service in Korea and Vietnam and the amazing vision of her large and historic gun battery, ORLECK is a major opportunity for a museum to become even more relevant to its audience and customer base which is interested in learning about the lessons of Korea and Vietnam.

She has other assets including a museum from the USS RADFORD  DD 968.  This material can be used to further the discussion of the mission these ships had.    Assistance will come from Tin Can Sailors, other DD Associations (some have already offered help) Battleship Cove (JPK) and when contacted we are sure that Vietnam Vets of America and more will come with us to do this.

Once connected with these other organizations for field days and the like, she will have volunteer sailors from all over willing to come and work on her, to be docents and to hold reunions.  The in-kind services these volunteer would provide will be beyond calculation.  Labor is the most expensive part of a product today.  With ORLECK comes lots of free labor.  If the city could just  look at this as an investment that will return dividends, those being the money from fundraising, Tin Can Sailor yearly grants, return on a very lucrative scout and cadet encampment program, increased Museum attendance by destroyer veterans and the interest seekers  they might realize that the dividend they gain would be larger even than if they could put the same money in the stock market.  USS ORLECK will like an annuity keep paying dividends.

This does not even take into account the increased revenue for the city through hotel, rooms and meals tax, increased business sales throughout the city for goods and services and the publicity that such events bring to the city.  It is not hard to see that the imagination of reunion planners, destination companies, vacationers to be captured by the idea that the premier Westpac Vietnam ready warship is in Lake Charles and they would plan events there once this is established.   This is a relationship that would mutually benefit both the USS ORLECK and the city of Lake Charles.

You just have to “Believe” and get her a permanent mooring!

 Posted by at 23:24
Apr 052014
 

Position Paper on:Vietnam Veterans comprising the largest part of reunion groups.  How that fact should guide in the proper restoration of USS ORLECK.   A permanent mooring for the ship is the main need of the ship at this time.   Such a mooring will insure her success into the future as the most sought after museum ship.

By Robert Orleck
Written on December 3, 2013 (revised April 8, 2014)

Our San Diego reunion will happen in August of 2014 and it is shaping up to be a great time of enjoyment as we look forward to gathering with friends, family and shipmates.  The major jobs for all of us there will be to; have a good time, remember past service and celebrate.  While those are the major items to be addressed, there is another matter that should be thought about long before we arrive at the Town and Country Resort in August of 2014.  The issue revolves around our decision made at the Northern Kentucky reunion regarding having a reunion at Lake Charles, LA with the USS ORLECK in 2016.  We agreed to pursue this option in Northern Kentucky contingent on her having a permanent mooring by the time we meet in San Diego.

So with my Destroyer USS ORLECK Association planning hat on I have been preparing to present alternatives if that permanent mooring is not had by then.  I will be prepared to present Virginia Beach/Norfolk as the alternative and possibly one other city that I am looking at.  For most of you who attended Northern Kentucky, I would assume that this approach makes sense and that is all that needs to be thought about until we learn of any progress in Lake Charles to get USS ORLECK a permanent mooring.   But that is not necessarily so.

Most of you know that I was very opposed to our ship going to Lake Charles, especially when there was another alternative that offered her a greater chance of success and survival.   At that time I saw no future in such a move.  That opposition was based on very good reasons that history has proven to be accurate but there is no need to detail that or revisit it any further.  In addition in the past I never saw  interest coming from the city of Lake Charles except for the dedicated group of individuals represented by the likes of Ed Martin.  (I now see a potential change in that interest, at least I am hopeful that is so.)   It has been fifteen years since USS ORLECK DD 886 was returned from Turkey and in terms of establishing her as a permanent museum, the first ten years were a total loss.  Even though there has been progress made to establish her in Lake Charles, without a permanent mooring she is still in a state of limbo and will not reach her potential.  In fact there will be very few groups, if any, faced with the uncertainty of her existence that will commit to coming and planning a reunion around her.  Such planning takes at least a year and as with ours two years and there needs to be certainty.  

The USS ORLECK is a treasure and would provide any city who opened their arms to her a great value of rich history and ongoing revenue for those who would come to experience that history.   Over the years that the locust ate, demographics have changed that I believe will benefit the reality of the USS ORLECK excelling as a Vietnam era warship museum in Lake Charles thus restoring some of that lost time.   It is now up to the city of Lake Charles for one simple reason.  She is there and to survive she must have the support of the city.   With a permanent mooring she will be the museum we all knew she could be.   She has weathered storms of nature and other rough waters following her 2000 Orange homecoming but through it all, and in spite of it all she is still with us.  She has experienced indignities that she should have never faced.  Her years of service, thirty seven to the United States and sixteen to Turkey were times of excellence, as her crews will attest and should have earned her a dignified retirement.    She did not get that but she is still in existence and for that we should give thanks.  Is it possible that the dream is still alive?

So what is it that has changed that might result in her emergence as a successful ship museum?   Time itself may have proven to be her best ally and for the real possibility that she could be the most sought after reunion ship and Lake Charles the most sought after city because she is there.  If I am correct and the right things are done in reaction to the breaks she has gotten this could guarantee her a continued life including that good retirement.    It is amazing how time can change things.  It was not until 2014 that it was recognized that USS ORLECK DD 886 was the most decorated warship afloat in US Naval history since WWII.  (that will be discussed in another post.)  Time did not change the ship but it did change the actions and abilities of those who served aboard her during her thirty seven years of service to our country.

What time has done with Vietnam era sailors will dramatically change the mission that ship museums have now, compared to what their mission was, say even ten to fifteen years ago.  Why?  More of Vietnam Veterans are participating in reunions now than before.  Their numbers are replacing those of WWII and Korea.  We are saddened at how many of our friends from those past eras we have lost but we cannot undo the effects of time.  However, our association is blessed to serve men from not one, but three very different wars.  The mission of museum ships, while still dedicated to all and we must never forget what was done by our WWII and Korean warriors, will now focus on Vietnam Veterans and their experiences because the time is theirs.

I started to notice this shift in attendance during the last couple of reunions for the USS ORLECK.  USS ORLECK is one of those unique ships that had two configurations.  Having undergone FRAM conversion (1962 Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization program  in which Gearing Class Destroyers were torn down from the hull and rebuilt with new weapon systems and more), she could never again look like her WWII or Korea configuration.   The attendance at reunions by that group of sailors was high in spite of the fact that the she looked so different from the ORLECK they served on.  That was even the situation when we held the reunion at the ORLECK in Orange, Texas in 2002 where 470 were registered to attend.

We have always encouraged and sought out participation by Vietnam sailors as much as we did WWII and Korea but their attendance did not increase dramatically until recent reunions.  Why?     I am certain the reason for the low representation of Vietnam vets during our first years as an reunion group had in some part to do with them still working along with raising and educating their children.  In the past five to ten years many of them have reached retirement age, their kids are educated, have left home and are raising families of their own.  Now these sailors have time to attend reunions and many of them are.  There is no doubt that they are as much in love with their ship and proud of their service as any crew of sailors who ever sailed her.  I gain extreme pleasure doing reunions for them and getting to know them as I did with their older brothers-in-arms.    Now Vietnam vets will make up by far the largest percentage of attendees at our San Diego reunion.  Other ship associations tell me that Vietnam sailors now make up a major majority of their attendance as well.

USS ORLECK DD 886 represents the best that was in Vietnam and coupled with the ever increasing involvement at reunions of sailors from that era, the picture I am trying to paint becomes clearer.  Her name is held in high regard throughout the world and especially the world of destroyer sailors.  If she were restored to this Vietnam time period, and done well, she would stand out as the premier Westpac museum ship for that period of history.

I have been doing reunions for the USS ORLECK from the beginning and believe I can speak as an expert in this area.  Phil King, XO for USS ORLECK does reunions for other ships and I feel certain he would tell you as well that those who do ship reunions are always looking for that special city to do a special reunion for their special ship.  Any city that would have a properly restored USS ORLECK would qualify as that special city.   Lake Charles right now, happens to be the city that has the chance to embrace this opportunity.  I am hopeful that when they realize the treasure they have this will awaken a desire in them to help and insure the success of the project.  If they do not and USS ORLECK cannot get a permanent mooring I hope that there is another city that would understand the value of embracing our ship, the dream, and take her in.

Thus, Lake Charles is poised to become the most desired reunion destination point for the many destroyer organizations out there.  A lot of support will be needed from individuals, businesses and government.  These interests will benefit from reunion groups coming to their city.  If this vision catches their attention I would expect many of them to come alongside to help provide the needed support to properly return the ORLECK to a state of apparent readiness and the dream will become a reality.  It just takes people who believe!  Can you just picture it?  All the elements coming together to allow for this last chance for the dream!  It can be!   Having a permanent mooring will set the wheels in motion for big things in Lake Charles.

So what should we do as an Association?  The sad part is that we are not as young as we were when we did strip trips, field days and the like back when we made our attempt to make her stay in Orange a success.  The glad part is we have made a lot of friends from other groups who have sadly lost their beloved ship to the scrap yard.   There should be enough of them who would want to come, not only during reunions, but at other times to relive their times aboard their ships, to do work days and help the ORLECK Museum carry out their mission of restoring USS ORLECK to that desired time.  So we should consider doing work field days with sailors from other associations partnering with us and the ORLECK Museum.  I am impressed by the continuing work that has been done on the USS KENNEDY DD 850 and I know that their tremendous expertise lead by Rich Angelini  will be brought to the table to assist the USS ORLECK wherever she might be.  Right now Rich and I have been and still are working on a Restoration Plan and updated history for USS ORLECK.  Rich is doing the technical evaluation and writing and I am researching and writing the history.  This can be used to set the course for her future restoration and for use in marketing her strengths to the community.  With a good business plan and restoration plan, there is no reason to believe that the smart business people out there who know how to capitalize on such value, will do so for their city.

It will be also be up to the ORLECK Museum to want this and to request the help and I believe they will.   I have spoken about this to both Ron and Ed and I got the impression they understand and would welcome such involvement.  If I am right about that they can lead the way and we can come behind to help them make it happen.    USS ORLECK has not been cut on nor experienced any major alterations.  She is definitely cared about and loved.  There is an opportunity in Lake Charles and with the right combination of expertise and resources she will make it.  USS ORLECK is still with us and where there is life there is hope.  What we need now is action in getting a permanent mooring and to move in the direction that time has offered us.

This is what we should be thinking about and I hope it brings a sense of excitement as we meet in San Diego in 2014.  In the meantime, I will and I hope you will encourage others to join us, input their ideas right now and engage.  We are a reunion organization and we will remain that first and foremost.  We also love our ship and there is nothing inconsistent with helping the ORLECK Museum if they in fact have caught the vision and are working toward the proper restoration of this fine lady.

Time is both our friend and our enemy.  We cannot let her remain in limbo for another fourteen years.  These years are needed for her to make her mark on the ship museum world.  We need these years to show our younger generations a properly restored Vietnam era ship so they will be able to see and know what our men did to protect their country and the world at that time.  Time is right for that to happen.  First it is up to the ORLECK Museum and to the City of Lake Charles to believe and move in this direction and if they do, then we and others will be there for them.

That big step and the one that will bring all the others and will bring success is the getting of a permanent mooring.  Without it few planners will bring their groups.  Uncertainty is just what a planner does not need.  To do a good job planning a reunion you need to have a base of operation and a reason to be there.  The reason will be a stable USS ORLECK Museum in a permanent mooring and the base of operation will be one of the fine Lake Charles hotels that will benefit thus bringing value to them and to their city. This should be the goal and it needs to be done quickly.  Destroyer USS ORLECK Association, the largest single ship destroyer organization needs to know that USS ORLECK will have a permanent mooring.  Without it the necessary planning cannot be done to insure the kind and quality of the reunions that organization does.  Without a permanent mooring, that reunion group will probably not come to Lake Charles out of necessity even though that destination would be the one most desired by most of its members.  Certainty is the key and that will come with a permanent mooring.

 Posted by at 23:17
Mar 022014
 

Historical considerations about USS ORLECK DD 886  

USS ORLECK DD 886 has a unique history that spans five decades from WWII, the Cold War Era, Korea, peacetime and then to Turkey  where she saw action in “Operation Desert Storm”.    ORLECK would bring great  educational opportunities for the staff at the Museum and would allow her visual equipment history to include WWII, Korea and Vietnam for those interested in those historic periods.    After WWII ended she spent a lot of time in the company of Russian Trawlers in the “cat and mouse” games that were perpetually going on and many are interested in that time.  Not only that she was a peacetime vessel and a Turkish vessel and her history covers five decades.

In Korea she distinguished herself in many ways and in particular was the first destroyer to ever have gotten an enemy train in the mountains.  The legendary Captain Yates accomplished the feat, not once but twice in a period of ten days.  From this action the ORLECK became the founder of the “Train Buster’s Club”.   Many allied ships taking the cue from USS ORLECK began slipping into coves, watching for those sparking tracks high in the mountains of North Korea then just at the right time opened with their 5” guns and took them out.

Then in Vietnam she distinguished herself  for more awards than any other ship being eligible for 14 battle stars there.  From 1964 through 1973 she went into enemy waters 29 different times in 14 of the recognized 17 Vietnam campaigns.  Take a look at this video and see exactly what she was doing that she did so well at.  1967 US Navy promotional film called America in Vietnam.  The ship gun fire support sequence at video point 0:59 and then again at 9:50 is  ORLECK. The video shows her at her best firing on enemy positions with a view of her from onboard and from the air. Looks like the Navy planned to document her here as the famous color photo of her firing on the Viet Cong is from this sequence.

This shows exactly what she did in Vietnam.    She  was recognized as “Top Gun” having expended more than 11,000 rounds of 5” ammunition in one tour of duty.

Her actions on the gun line are legendary and many stories are available regarding troops she saved with her accurate gunfire during shore bombardment

USS ORLECK engages enemy in Korea

USS ORLECK engages enemy in Korea

Back in the 60’s USS ORLECK was equipped with the  DASH for anti-submarine use.   We hear about drones all the time nowadays that are very sophisticated with GPS capability.  By comparison the DASH is a Model T,  but is was state-of-the-art equipment for that time.    Later the DASH was changed to function as a spy drone and called a “Snoopie”.  USS ORLECK operated the last known DASH mission in 1962.   USS ORLECK has two of these birds that will make interesting question provoking displays.  The USS ORLECK  would satisfy those seeking out history from WWII and future conflicts as well.

The USS ORLECK is a star in her own right.  In 1950 she played the part of a Japanese destroyer in “American Guerilla in the Philippines” starring Tyrone Power.  Still young and handsome enough she starred in the ABC mini-series “Winds of War” with Robert Mitchum.

Lt. Orleck went down with his ship, the USS NAUSET AT 89, during the invasion of Salerno in WWII when struck from high above by German bombs.    The story can be told of Pearl Harbor and the invasion of Italy.  ORLECK spent a great deal of time in Hawaiian waters so her past covers both theaters of war during different decades with different players.

The USS ORLECK served in the Seventh Fleet in the Pacific for over 37 years.   There are USS ORLECK deck logs that cover 37 years of history and are on-line and searchable.  The docents can direct people to that source for further study.  Hard copies of all the deck logs are on the USS ORLECK having been loaned to the Museum in Lake Charles and are a valuable research tool.

The ORLECK was capable of carrying and deploying a nuclear weapon.  She may or may not have done that and that information I believe is still classified.  If she had been chosen to be a destroyer to carry such a weapon and it is likely in my opinion that she way, her ASROC Missile Launcher would be armed with a 10-kiloton, W44 nuclear depth charge warhead.  Such a conversation by the docents at the Museum could be of great interest to many.  A sister ship, the USS AGERHOLM actually did detonate such a weapon in a test explosion in the 1960′s so that could be discussed and ORLECK could be the show and tell on how it happened.

 

 Posted by at 22:54
Jan 222014
 

Videos shared by The USS ORLECK Naval Museum  See also interview of USS ORLECK SAILORS at

http://www.ussorleck.com/uss-orleck-sailors-interviews/

 

Published on Oct 25, 2013

Come join the crew of The USS Orleck Naval Museum Haunted Ship for the last weekend of the terrifying Bludd Vessel! Bring family and friends along for the spooky spectacle and save $2 off a photo booth picture. Gates open at 6p.m., haunting starts at 7. We will also be open on the 30th and 31st so you can get your Halloween thrills and chills! Be there AND be scared!

 

Published on Dec 4, 2013

Every day visitors, friends and past crew members of the USS Orleck tour the ship. Plan your tour today!

 

 

Published on Dec 11, 2013

The Orleck hosts guests and volunteers all pitching in to make the USS Orleck a better ship.

 

 

Published on Jan 3, 2014


 

Ms Sandy Ward, daughter of deceased USS Radford crew member LT Jess Ward, 1943-1945. Ms Ward visited the USS Orleck in April 2013 and donated her father’s WWII memorabilia to the USS Radford Museum Collection Aboard the USS Orleck Naval Musuem. Watch as she shares stories and donates and prepares items for display in the museum.

 

 Posted by at 15:22
Jan 222014
 

What follows are some really good interviews conducted

filmed by THE USS ORLECK NAVAL MUSEUM in Lake Charles, LA.

They proceed from the oldest to the most current interview.  Thanks to those who preserved this information.  Let them know that you enjoyed them.

 

Published October 11, 2013

Kenneth Pinner, who served as engine man on the USS Orleck from 1951-1954, recalls his first days on the ship, his journey up the ladder of duty and his recreational time spent with his shipmates.

 

Published October 14, 2013

Larry Collins, who served on the USS Orleck from ’61-’64, shares his stories of his time on the Orleck and rebuilding.

 

Published on Oct 16, 2013

Larry collins shares stories of mess duty, grounding the anchor and watching typhoon waves from the mast of the ship.

Published on Oct 18, 2013

Supply Officer James Cunningham, who served on the Orleck from ’70-’73, shares stories of ‘literal’ bug juice, day to day ship life and civilian life after leaving the navy.

Published on Oct 23, 2013

Gary Peterson, Operations Specialist 3rd Class from ’72-’73, shares stories of his first days on the Orleck and sleeping conditions on the ship.

Published on Oct 28, 2013

Richard Lundh, Radar Electronics Technician on the Orleck from 1949-1952, shares his story of when the ship was shelled by enemy fire.

Published on Nov 8, 2013

Chuck Roy recalls his first impressions of the sip and shares his feelings on what he thinks his service on the ship has done for his life.

Published on Nov 13, 2013

David Gilliam, who served on the Orleck’s sister ship (USS Hawkins) from ’73-’77, shares firsthand experience of powering and the inner mechanics of the ship.

Published on Nov 20, 2013

Ernie Delucchi, who served on The USS Orleck from ’63-’66, shares stories of the wild seas and adventures of the deck of the ship.

Published on Nov 25, 2013

Glenn Walling, who served on the Orleck from ’63-’65, shares his feelings on stepping back on the ship after so many years and the great sense of pride he feels for his years of service

Published on Nov 29, 2013

TJ Platt shares his experience helping to build the USS Orleck and his various duties on the site.

Published on Jan 10, 2014

Gene Petefish recalls his time served in the Orleck’s sonar room as well as day to day food stories aboard the ship.

Published on Jan 17, 2014

Norman Settles, MM2 1960-1963, gives a tour of the living quarters and his actual bunk from the years he served on the Orleck.

Published on Jan 20, 2014

James Eastin, former cook on the Orleck, shares stories of the kitchen and the bumpy rides he used to encounter on the ship.

 

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